Minutes of the 16th November 2017 Teleconference     Austin-845 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 18th November 2017

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    David Clissold, IBM
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat
    Martin Rehak, Open Group OR

Apologies:
   None 

* General news 
None.


* Outstanding actions

( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 28 Jan 2016)

Bug 0000249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell   Reopened
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249
We will return to bug 249 on a future call.

Bug 0000953: Alias expansion is under-specified   Was Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953
Richard has an action to propose new wording to discuss in a future telecon.

* Current Business

Two items from previous weeks are still open:

Bug 1061: Please add memmem() (and maybe wmemmem())  OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1061     

Martin has completed his action to forward to The Open Group.
The response from The Open Group was that AIX, HP-UX and Solaris
engineering have no objections to aligning with BSD and GNU behavior.
Andrew will take the action to confirm that The Open Group will
sponsor the interface.

Bug 1063: missing specification for sh -h        Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1063

Along with desired action, Change in set -h P2410, L77147 of 2016 edition:
    Locate and remember utilities invoked by functions as those
    functions are defined (the utilities are normally located when
    the function is executed).
to:
    [OB] Setting this option may speed up PATH searches (see [xref to XBD Chapter 8]).
    This option may be enabled by default.[/OB]

On page 2413 line 77273 of 2016 edition (set RATIONALE), change:
    The −h flag is related to command name hashing. See [xref to hash].
to:
    The −h option is related to command name hashing. See [xref to
    hash]. The normative description is deliberately vague because
    the way this option works varies between shell implementations.

    Earlier versions of this standard specified -h as a way to
    locate and remember utilities to be invoked by functions as
    those functions are defined (the utilities are normally located
    when the function is executed). However, this did not match
    existing practice in most shells.

On page 2847, line 93798 of 2016 edition (last paragraph of hash
DESCRIPTION), change:
    Utilities provided as built-ins to the shell shall not be reported by hash.
to:

    Utilities provided as built-ins to the shell and functions shall
    not be reported by hash.

On page 2848, line 93830-93834 of 2016 edition (hash STDOUT), add
to the end of the paragraph:

    This list shall be cleared when the contents of the PATH
    environment variable are changed.

On page 3226 line 108276-108280 of 2016 edition (sh SYNOPSIS) add
OB shading to all six occurrences of the h option letter.

Next Steps
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The next call is on November 30th, 2017 (a Thursday)
There will be no call on November 23rd.

Apologies in advance: Andrew (30th)

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

This call will be for the regular 90 minutes.

http://austingroupbugs.net

An IRC channel will be available for the meeting
irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/201x-mm-dd
username=posix password=2115756#