Minutes of the 6th June 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1411 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         7th June 2024


Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA 
    Ahmet Acar
   
Apologies
    Tom Thompson, IEEE
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev

* General news

We agreed there will be no Monday meetings for a while.

Andrew reported that the pdf document was ready for publication by IEEE and The Open Group
and is due for publication on June 14. 

The html version is still to be progressed.

The ISO/IEC ballot closes on June 28.

* Current Business

Bug 1832: Add preadv() and pwritev()
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1832 OPEN

Based on feedback from Philip Guenther in email sequence #37374,
we changed our comment on this proposal during the 2024-06-06 meeting
to: 
Given that all versions of read and write operations in the
standard have been cancellation points for as long as threads were
present, saying that pread() and pwrite() are no longer required
to be cancellation points would mean applications that are depending
on them to act on a pending cancellation would have to be changed
to perform their own cancellation point processing (calling
pthread_testcancel()) when performing these operations.  Furthermore,
all known implementations of these functions have made them
cancellation points.  Given that preadv() and pwritev() are logically
equivalent to pread() and pwrite(), we believe that they should
also be cancellation points.

Action: EricB to ask The Open Group to sponsor this change for issue 9.



1797: strftime "%s" should be able to examine tm_gmtoff OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1797

Nick has completed his action here.
We reviewed the draft at the meeting, see Austin/1412.


Items carried forward:
Bug 1818: Add strcasestr() & strcasestr_l() OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1818
Action: Eric B to ask The Open Group if they are willing to sponsor
these functions for Issue 9.

Bug 1824: cp: directories and symlinks OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1824

Action: Eric B to contact the GNU coreutils maintainers to ask for
their input, particularly on the behavior noted in bugnote 6788.

Bug 1831: how do you get the timestamp resolution of a symlink? OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1831
Action: EricB to ask The Open Group to sponsor this change.


Next Steps 
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Reminder: Mon 2024-06-10 No meeting

The next call is on:
  Thu 2024-06-13 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
  Thu 2024-06-20 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

  
The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
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