Minutes of the 20th May 2024 Teleconference Austin-1406 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 22nd May 2024 Attendees: Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Andrew Josey, The Open Group Geoff Clare, The Open Group Apologies Tom Thompson, IEEE Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev Eric Ackermann, CISPA Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR (joining late) * General news There will be no meeting on Monday May 27. The approval vote on 1003.1 closes today (after the meeting we received notice of approval as IEEE Standard 1003.1-2024) The ISO/IEC ballot closes on June 28. * Current Business 1797: strftime "%s" should be able to examine tm_gmtoff OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1797 We expect to continue this item this coming Thursday (Paul has confirmed availability). Bug 1818: Add strcasestr() & strcasestr_l() OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1818 Action: Eric B to ask The Open Group if they are willing to sponsor these functions for Issue 9. Bug 1822: Define splitting using a null field separator Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1822 This item is tagged for Issue 9. Page and line numbers are for issue 8 draft 4.1. On P2617, L85671 section awk (EXTENDED DESCRIPTION) change: If FS is a null string, the behavior is unspecified. to: If FS is a null string, each character shall become a separate field. Bug 1824: cp: directories and symlinks OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1824 Action: Eric B to contact the GNU coreutils maintainers to ask for their input, particularly on the behavior noted in bugnote 6788. Bug 1825: Does releasing a reader lock carries a "release" memory order semantic? Withdrawn https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1825 Withdrawn by the submitter. Bug 1826: du: space used between and , while common implementations use tab Rejected https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1826 Bug 1827: Standardize gzip(1) cli interface instead of adding it to compress(1) Rejected https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1827 Bug 1041 was resolved more than 7 years ago and had been included in draft versions of the standard for more than 4 years before bug 1827 was submitted. Filing a bug to reverse this after the IEEE and The Open Group ballots have been completed and while the ISO ballot on the current version of the standard is in its final stage is way too late to make the requested changes. Furthermore, these issues were discussed before the changes were approved seven years ago and the standard developers believed then and still believe that including the changes to compress was better than adding several other sets of compression utilities. Therefore, this bug is rejected. Bug 1828: Rationale is out of date Accepted https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1828 This item is tagged for TC1-2024 Bug 1829: symlink() and terminating null bytes Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1829 This item is tagged for TC1-2024 Make the changes suggested in the Desired Action and in Note: 0006776. Bug 1830: off-by-one error regarding offset maximum Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1830 This item is tagged for TC1-2024 Change: For regular files, no data transfer shall occur past the offset maximum established in the open file description associated with fildes. to: For regular files, no data shall be written at positions greater than or equal to the offset maximum established in the open file description associated with fildes. If the starting position is greater than or equal to the offset maximum (and nbyte is greater than 0), the request shall fail; otherwise, only as many bytes as there is room for shall be written. Bug 1831: how do you get the timestamp resolution of a symlink? OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1831 Action: EricB to ask The Open Group to sponsor this change. Closing 786 as a duplicate of this, since this is more up to date and refers to an implementation that is expected to exist by the time this is standardized. Bug 786: pathconfat() is missing Dup of 1831 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=786 Closed, duplicate of 1831. Next Steps ---------- The next call is on: Thu 2024-05-23 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) Mon 2024-05-27 No meeting Thu 2024-05-30 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) Apologies in Advance: Eric Blake 2024-05-20, 2024-05-23 The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)