Minutes of the 29th April 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1402 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         1st May 2024


Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Tom Thompson, IEEE
   
Apologies
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev

* General news

There will be no meeting on Monday May 6th.

The ISO/IEC ballot closes on June 28.

The IEEE Revcom committee meets on May 6 to consider approval of draft 4.1.

* Current Business

1797: strftime "%s" should be able to examine tm_gmtoff OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1797

We will continue this item next time that Paul is available (expected in April).

Bug 1816: daylight, timezone, tzname do not work with location-based TZ Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1816
This item is tagged for TC1-2024.

<time.h> DESCRIPTION page 454 line 15841, change XSI to OB XSI.

line 15843, change CX to OB CX.

<time.h> FUTURE DIRECTIONS page 454 line 15856, change "None" to:
    The variables daylight, timezone, and tzname are planned to be
    removed in a future version of this standard, as they have
    unspecified values unless the environment variable TZ is of the
    second format.

daylight SYNOPSIS page 801 line 27445, change XSI to OB XSI.

strptime DESCRIPTION page 2160 lines 70602-70606: add OB shading
to "If this name matches ... shall be set to 0."

timezone SYNOPSIS page 2279 line 74382, change XSI to OB XSI.
Also remove the "()" after timezone in the page heading.

tzset SYNOPSIS page 2310

line 75167: change XSI to OB XSI
line 75169: change CX to OB CX
line 75170: add CX margin marker

tzset DESCRIPTION page 2310

lines 75175-75178 add OB margin marker and shading

line 75175: Prepend "If the value of TZ is of the second format,"

line 75178: change "as described in XBD Chapter 8 (on page 167)"
to "as described for the second TZ format in XBD Section 8.3 (on
page 174)"

line 75179: change XSI to OB XSI

line 75179: Also prepend "If the value of TZ is of the second format,"

Line 75182: Append the following paragraph:

    [OB]If the value of TZ is not of the second format, the tzset()
    function shall set the array elements of the external variable
    tzname to point to unspecified string values[/OB]

    [OB XSI]and shall set the external variables daylight and
    timezone to unspecified values.[/OB XSI]

line 75183: change XSI to OB XSI

line 75199 (APPLICATION USAGE) Append the following paragraph:
    The values of the variables daylight, timezone, and tzname can
    only be relied upon to reflect the local timezone information
    if the environment variable TZ value is of the second format.
    Applications should use the tm_zone member of the tm structure
    instead of tzname and the tm_gmtoff member instead of timezone.
    When using tm_zone and tm_gmtoff there is no need for the
    information that is available in daylight.

page 2311 line 75207 (tzset() FUTURE DIRECTIONS), change "None" to:
    The variables daylight, timezone, and tzname are planned to be
    removed in a future version of this standard, as they have
    unspecified values unless the environment variable TZ is of the
    second format.


page 2311 line 75210 (tzset() SEE ALSO), change:
    XBD Chapter 8 (on page 167)
to:
    XBD Section 8.3 (on page 174)


Bug 1817: lseek(2) - "size of a file" undefined OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1817


We started on this item, and will continue on the item next time.


Next Steps 
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  Mon 2024-05-06 NO MEETING
  Thu 2024-05-09 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
  

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